((PKG)) FEMALE PAINTER ((TRT: 04:56)) ((Banner: Women in Business)) ((Reporter/Camera: Genia Dulot)) ((Adapted by: Philip Alexiou)) ((Map: San Diego, California)) ((Main character: 1 female)) ((Sub character: 1 female)) ((NATS/MUSIC)) ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) I was painting at a high rise, not so great apartment building, actually right in this neighborhood. And I was working alongside this cleaner and she was crying. She was like, “How are you able to do this?” Because we make a lot more money than cleaners. “You know, it's a man's job. I wish I could do this and all these things.” And I was really moved by that. And I was like one day like I'm going to get my contractor's license so I can hire women and they can make more money, you know. And so, that's what I did. ((NATS)) ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) I was in contractor license school and I was like nine months pregnant. I was the only woman and I was like wobbling in there. I was really uncomfortable. ((NATS: Kelly Forbes and her daughter)) Can you wave at the camera? Hi. ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) It's very masculine. It's very sexist. It's very ageist as well. So, I was just young, and I was a woman, and I just generally got paid much less than other people. Like I was going in people's houses, doing the whole entire job, was making 14 dollars an hour and the foremen were making 25, 30 dollars an hour. ((NATS)) ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) Well, I created my own company when I was 16 years old as soon as I learned to paint a room. I just came up with the name Love Painting Company because I love love and I love the word love. But I started a physical, real like live company that has a contractor's license and all of those things in 2017. ((NATS/MUSIC)) ((NATS: Kelly Forbes and Jennifer, Employee, LOVE Painting Company)) I'm also impressed that you know that painters wear white. Well, a lot of it's to hide like plaster and product instead Yep. of landing on the clothes. Yep. and white matches everything and so any paint splattered Yep. on your clothes it matches. ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) You’re carrying like five gallon [19 liter] buckets of paint. They're extremely heavy. You're carrying heavy ladders, going up and down and up and down all day. So, it's pretty physically demanding. ((NATS)) ((Jennifer, Employee, LOVE Painting Company)) So, I think that's a common misconception in society that like women can't do these like hands-on jobs that might take physical labor. And I think that, you know, women can do anything a man can do. ((NATS)) ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) Like, we hire men as well. It’s not a sexist thing or people who identify as somewhere in between both genders, like we're very encompassing. But also, a lot of women, people really trust them. And they come in their home and they feel people with families or say like an older woman who lives alone, like they feel very comfortable with that. And women are really great painters as well. ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) It's just, it's a feminine process in general. You're like coating unique things. It's not like carpentry where like carpentry you're cutting wood and it's like a measurement and it's like a straightness and it's very exact, whereas like, so it’s like a very feminine, like finesse process to paint things. And then there's like the intuitive color consultation side. ((NATS/MUSIC)) ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) This yellow and this purple will not be in the home on the walls. It's a palette for them to work off of, to add art and accents, throw pillows, blankets, stuff like that. ((NATS/MUSIC)) ((Courtesy: LOVE Painting Company)) ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) And I was just there one day by myself like working and I was like I'm just going to raise the pay for everyone to 20 dollars an hour. When you walk onto the company, you're going to make 20 dollars an hour ((Courtesy: LOVE Painting Company)) ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) because anything less than that is a joke in San Diego. If people don't want to pay that, then that's fine. They can work with other people that take advantage of people and pay less but that's not what we're going to do. ((NATS: Kelly Forbes and her daughter)) Going to make you a little fort right over here. Get in your secret fort. We're not going to tell anyone you're in there. She loves painting. Maya, do you like painting? She loves painting. ((Kelly Forbes, Founder, LOVE Painting Company)) There are weeks when I have projects where I feel like I don't see her. And then I'm on my phone a lot or those things. But I hope that what she sees is like anything that she wants to do like she can do it, you know. And I think kids mirror what they see more than anything. So, I hope that that's what she sees, you know. ((NATS/MUSIC))